Psychonauts Query

simpson_yellow · 09-27-2005, 06:45 AM

Not sure whether this belong here or in general gaming. Ah well,...

Just wondering if anyone can tell me if there are supposed to be prerendered cutscenes in Waterloo World. I've completed the game (with 100% collectibles) and I didn't see a single movie in Waterloo World despite there being one or more in every other area of the game (note the below screenshot where there's no 'camera' icon next to Fred Bonaparte's name, indicating that there are no cutscenes to view).

I didn't think anything of this until I stumbled across a website today sporting the following screenshot, which looks like it's been taken from a prerendered cutscene:

Whether it's prerendered or not, I definitely didn't see this 'cow' bit when I played the game. Anyone had any experiences relating to this?

I'm playing the PC version (and yes, it's a genuine copy

).

RLacey · 09-27-2005, 12:33 PM

I don't think that there were any prerendered cutscenes. All the piece movement was in-engine, so I can't think of anything else left.

Kolzig · 09-27-2005, 12:49 PM

That screenshot is from an earlier development phase, I think.
Moos would know the best and right answer for this.

Kingzjester · 09-27-2005, 12:56 PM

The cow bit is from the earlier build of the game, however, it still sortof made it through. If you enter Fred's mind after you have completed it, you will see giant cow-shaped game pieces.

And no, there are no pre-rendered cutscenes in that mind. Not that there need to be.

Udvarnoky · 09-27-2005, 01:00 PM

There's no movie in Fred's level (or Milla's either, if I recall correctly). And you'll find all sorts of neat stuff looking at those early screenshots.

simpson_yellow · 09-27-2005, 07:06 PM

I thought it was cool that the cows were just there when I went back into Fred's mind later in the game (and I loved what Raz says to them

). The screenshot just made me think I might've missed out on a more explicit explanation for their existence. Many thanks for clarifying, everyone.

And you're right about the lack of Milla movies, Udvarnoky. I missed that one. Also, is there a good spot to find these early screenshots you speak of?

Man, I only finished this game a few days ago and I'm already craving a replay. Desperately need to go back to Black Velvetopia.

*Jake* · 09-27-2005, 08:15 PM

You can see a lot of it just looking through screenshot galleries. Lots of unfamiliar scenes and locations appear. like... http://mixnmojo.com/galleries/galler...ge=176&goback= wha?

RLacey · 09-28-2005, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpson_yellow

Man, I only finished this game a few days ago and I'm already craving a replay. Desperately need to go back to Black Velvetopia.

I've given up at the Meat Circus. I'll go back to it at Christmas.

*natalia* · 09-28-2005, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLacey

I've given up at the Meat Circus. I'll go back to it at Christmas.

Ack! Me too. I can't get past the water part.

simpson_yellow · 09-28-2005, 11:20 PM

The Meat Circus / Big Top definitely had some frustrating moments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLacey

I've given up at the Meat Circus. I'll go back to it at Christmas.

Which bit is giving you grief? Trying to keep little Ole safe, or the water bit?

natalia, I stumbled across this thread recently, which might give you some hints if the

Spoiler:
curved lattice is the bit that's giving you a hard time. If instead you're having problems where you're running on the tightropes and dodging the flaming juggling things, I can only suggest that you use invisibility as much as possible (he doesn't throw stuff when he can't see you ).

And thanks for the link, Jake. Some really interesting stuff there.

RLacey · 09-29-2005, 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpson_yellow

Which bit is giving you grief? Trying to keep little Ole safe, or the water bit?

Trying to keep Ole safe. I keep dying at the fourth part of this (please tell me that there aren't many more steps), because the camera moves to a really stupid angle when you

Spoiler:
are swinging on the knife on the revolving board.

simpson_yellow · 09-29-2005, 05:22 AM

Spoiler:
There are two steps with those rotating boards, but they're the last steps before you reach the top, so you're nearly there.

A couple more awkward moments await you in the next part of the level but the checkpoint mechanics make it less frustrating than the bit where you are at the moment.

By the way, I apologise for the lack of spoiler tags on my response to natalia. Probably a bit late now but I've stuck them in anyway

.

*natalia* · 09-29-2005, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simpson_yellow

The Meat Circus / Big Top definitely had some frustrating moments.
Which bit is giving you grief? Trying to keep little Ole safe, or the water bit?

natalia, I stumbled across this thread recently, which might give you some hints if the

Spoiler:
curved lattice is the bit that's giving you a hard time. If instead you're having problems where you're running on the tightropes and dodging the flaming juggling things, I can only suggest that you use invisibility as much as possible (he doesn't throw stuff when he can't see you ).

And thanks for the link, Jake. Some really interesting stuff there.

Thanks for the thread link, simpson!

That's exactly the part (the water bit) that I'm having trouble with. I'll try that last trick mentioned.

09-27-2005, 06:45 AM	#1
simpson_yellow Squeaky Last Online: 03-23-2009 08:22 PM Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,320	Psychonauts Query Not sure whether this belong here or in general gaming. Ah well,... Just wondering if anyone can tell me if there are supposed to be prerendered cutscenes in Waterloo World. I've completed the game (with 100% collectibles) and I didn't see a single movie in Waterloo World despite there being one or more in every other area of the game (note the below screenshot where there's no 'camera' icon next to Fred Bonaparte's name, indicating that there are no cutscenes to view). I didn't think anything of this until I stumbled across a website today sporting the following screenshot, which looks like it's been taken from a prerendered cutscene: Whether it's prerendered or not, I definitely didn't see this 'cow' bit when I played the game. Anyone had any experiences relating to this? I'm playing the PC version (and yes, it's a genuine copy ).

09-27-2005, 12:33 PM	#2
RLacey The Thread™ will die. Last Online: 07-11-2012 11:25 PM Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 22,542	I don't think that there were any prerendered cutscenes. All the piece movement was in-engine, so I can't think of anything else left. __________________ RLacey \| Killer of the Thread™ I do not change to be perfect. Perfect changes to be me.

09-27-2005, 12:49 PM	#3
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09-27-2005, 08:15 PM	#7
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09-29-2005, 05:22 AM	#12
simpson_yellow Squeaky Last Online: 03-23-2009 08:22 PM Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,320	Spoiler: There are two steps with those rotating boards, but they're the last steps before you reach the top, so you're nearly there. A couple more awkward moments await you in the next part of the level but the checkpoint mechanics make it less frustrating than the bit where you are at the moment. By the way, I apologise for the lack of spoiler tags on my response to natalia. Probably a bit late now but I've stuck them in anyway .

09-27-2005, 12:56 PM	#4
Kingzjester Tactlessly understated Last Online: 02-17-2012 11:24 AM Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Niceshire Posts: 2,045	The cow bit is from the earlier build of the game, however, it still sortof made it through. If you enter Fred's mind after you have completed it, you will see giant cow-shaped game pieces. And no, there are no pre-rendered cutscenes in that mind. Not that there need to be.

09-27-2005, 01:00 PM	#5
Udvarnoky Senior Member Last Online: 05-11-2019 01:44 PM Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 632	There's no movie in Fred's level (or Milla's either, if I recall correctly). And you'll find all sorts of neat stuff looking at those early screenshots.

09-27-2005, 07:06 PM	#6
simpson_yellow Squeaky Last Online: 03-23-2009 08:22 PM Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canberra, Australia Posts: 1,320	I thought it was cool that the cows were just there when I went back into Fred's mind later in the game (and I loved what Raz says to them ). The screenshot just made me think I might've missed out on a more explicit explanation for their existence. Many thanks for clarifying, everyone. And you're right about the lack of Milla movies, Udvarnoky. I missed that one. Also, is there a good spot to find these early screenshots you speak of? Man, I only finished this game a few days ago and I'm already craving a replay. Desperately need to go back to Black Velvetopia.